Starting a Church Internship

This morning I met with a young man who is a senior at Cal Baptist University and an intern at his local church. He is helping their church develop a new internship program, so he asked if I had any advice. He asked some really sharp questions, and I hope my answers were equally helpful. If you’re partnering with the BAT program at CBU, or just developing an internship program in general, this may give you some ideas…

Q. What are some of the common pitfalls to avoid in church internship programs?

One of the biggest problems I see is that many interns get pigeon-holed in a particular ministry, and lack breadth. This may happen voluntarily, or at the direction of the church. But it is unwise to spend all your time with a homogenous unit, hanging out with people who look and sound just like you. For example, a youth intern working exclusively with students. Or a worship leader always hanging out with the other musicians.

In Titus 2, Paul emphasized that older men and women are to mentor the younger men and women. I like to see cross-generational ministry happening in any church internship program. It could be that the youth interns do a service project for some seniors in the church, or spend a Friday night babysitting for a young family so the couple can have a date night, then visiting with that family or staying overnight at their house. It could be that you invite someone from a different demographic to share a testimony with your group, or even mentor for your group. When my wife and I were newlyweds in the Young Married’s Bible study at our last church, we were blessed by an older couple who became a sponsor couple, hanging out with us and sharing a good dose of wisdom and experience.

Another challenge for many internships is to find the balance between academic training and practical experience. As you know, many careers — whether teaching, business, medicine, politics, etc. – recognize the value of some kind of internship or residency program. It’s one thing to talk about a subject in the classroom, but it’s another to see it worked out in real life.

Churches have a tendency to go to one extreme or the other. Either they are almost entirely practical, assigning lots of tasks, or they are almost entirely academic, assigning books and papers, but with very little hands-on training. I like to see a balance of both. Think of how Jesus trained his disciples. He did not wait until his ascension to send them out, but throughout the course of his three years of training, he sent them on short term trips, giving them increasing levels of responsibility, while they still continued to learn.

Lastly, I think you need to help students not to bite off more than they can chew. The college years are full of opportunities. And anyone in ministry knows you can easily get overwhelmed by the sheer number of needs and volume of work to be done. This can lead to unrealistic expectations and even a sense of guilt. Only if you keep your priorities straight and depend on God will you be able to endure. Interns need to be coached not to commit to too much, but do a limited number of things with excellence, then stick with it to the end, long after the honeymoon phase is over.

Q. In your experience of working with other churches and seeing various internships, what has stood out as some of the best features?

I love to see churches treating their interns with respect. Interns are not mere gophers or coffee boys, but almost peers. Obviously interns are not full-fledged pastors yet, but I believe they should be given increasing levels of authority as they prove themselves faithful in the small things. I’ll never forget how good it felt to be introduced by one of our elders as a “pastor” for the first time (though I was still an intern in my final year of seminary). It really made me want to rise to the occasion and faithfully carry out such a sacred trust.

Allowing your intern to see a full budget, or make some low-level decisions, or attend a closed session of a staff meeting conveys that they are important, and that you are entrusting them with responsibility and sensitive information. If you aren’t willing to take any risk or give them any responsibility at all, maybe you’ve picked the wrong person to invest your time in and to train up.

Another feature of a really great internship is for the pastor to spend time with his interns and to take them places to learn together, such as a workshop or conference. (If you ever have a Mark Dever sighting at a conference, you’ll likely see his entourage of interns nearby). Take them with you to Shepherd’s Conference, or T4G, or even livestream a conference from the church. Learn together, then share a meal together and talk about what you learned. These are great times for discipleship and build some great camaraderie.

Q. Is there anything we have to do to be in compliance to host Applied Theology students who need an internship?

The short answer is no. There aren’t any specific requirements to be in compliance with the BAT program, other than the church should affirm the Baptist Faith & Message, which I know your church does.

We give our churches broad latitude how they want to form an internship program to fit their church while meeting the goals of the School of Christian Ministries. BAT interns are expected to invest at least 10-12 hours per week in their local church. These hours can be spent however the church deems best, and a Learning Contract will be signed between church supervisor and student at the beginning of each semester. It is helpful when the supervisor reserves time for them to complete any observation reports and to provide whatever information and resources might be necessary (e.g. let them sit in on a staff meeting, view a budget, accompany on a hospital visit, etc.).

It is also important to keep in mind this is a pastoral training program. So while a BAT intern may be helping with your music ministry, youth program, admin, or whatever, the focus of the BAT program is to develop pastors and church ministry leaders. It is most helpful when a church provides regular access to pastors and mentors them in this direction. We are not just training students to preach a sermon or plan an event, but are trying to cultivate hearts who will shepherd God’s flock. In some cases, I think this is forgotten, and as ministry gets busy, the pastor gets busy, and our BAT students get little face-time with them. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the senior pastor, but it is nice if the student can meet with a pastor who is involved in shepherding and pastoral care.

Hope this helps!

Church Membership

Is church membership really a biblical concept? While you won’t find a chapter and verses that says, “Thou shalt become a member of a local church,” I believe the idea of membership is woven throughout scripture. After all, membership is just a formalized way of making a commitment, and commitment is at the very heart of what it means to be a disciple of Christ. Commitment also happens to be something many modern Christians avoid like the plague.

In the past, I have shared nine reasons that church membership is necessary, and I still believe those to be true. Membership is a healthy practice I would urge every pastor and local church to consider.

At Crossview Bible Church, we try to facilitate commitment to the Lord and his church by offering a quarterly Membership Class. I usually teach the course, and invite one of our lay elders to participate. For us, it seems to work best to offer the class on a Sunday night and serve dinner.

During the class, we share an overview of the gospel and talk about the nature and purpose of the church. I then introduce a simple discipleship process (adapted from The Trellis & The Vine), talk about member expectations, and give a little background on our denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention.

Last night, we offered this class and I decided to record it because a few of our prospective members were unable to attend in person. The video quality is not great, but here it is case you’re interested:

Contents of the video include:

  • 0:00 Welcome and Introduction
  • 12:00 What is the Gospel?
  • 32:00 The Nature & Purpose of the Church
  • 57:30 A Simple Discipleship Process
  • 1:08:50 Our Bylaws, Beliefs, and SBC Cooperation

The church is made up of ordinary people just like you. If you’ve trusted in Jesus, you have the gift of eternal life and are part of a new family now. You should not live in isolation or wander in and out of churches for the rest of your life. You need to find a local, Bible-believing church, and get committed as soon as possible. If you live in the Yucca Valley area, we would be honored to have you visit Crossview Bible Church and help you take this next step in your spiritual journey.

Unanswered Prayer

Be thankful God doesn’t answer all your prayers.

I was reminded of this lesson while reading 1 Kings 18 this morning. If any prophet was known for prayer, it was Elijah. His name is almost synonymous with prayer. He lived in dark times, and had a close walk with God, remaining in steadfast devotion and almost unceasing prayer. As Abraham is our mascot of faith, so Elijah is our mascot of prayer.

James says, “The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working” (James 5:16). Then he uses Elijah as Exhibit A.

“Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth. Then he prayed again, and heaven gave rain, and the earth bore its fruit” (James 5:17-18).

The historical details of this story are found in 1 Kings 18. Ahab was a notoriously wicked king over the Northern Kingdom of Israel. As an act of judgment, God sealed up the heavens for three and a half years so there was not even a drop of rain. But when the people saw fire from heaven and finally gave glory to God, Elijah got down on his knees to the business of prayer.

After praying, Elijah told his servant, “Go up now, look toward the sea,” and on the seventh time, a tiny cloud “like a man’s hand” rose from the sea and swirled into a massive storm. “In a little while the heavens grew black with clouds and wind, and there was a great rain.” (v. 45).

What a powerful prayer! All from a man “with a nature like ours” (James 5:17).

But there’s more to the story. Wicked queen Jezebel gets word of Elijah’s slaughter of the prophets of Baal, and immediately puts a death warrant on him.

Elijah Statue at Muhraqa, the place where a great showdown occurred between Elijah and the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel. Photo courtesy of Todd Bolen.

Elijah flees south into the Negev, and within a matter of days, he is in despair, having almost suicidal thoughts. “It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life, for I am no better than my fathers” (1 Kings 19:4).

This time, God does not grant Elijah’s request. The man of prayer gets a “no” from the Lord. At first, Elijah may have been disappointed. Death would seem preferable to remaining a spiritual fugitive. But God not only refuses to answer Elijah’s prayer by postponing his death. He does something Elijah could have never dreamed of. He allows Elijah to avoid death altogether. Elijah becomes one of only two men in all the Bible (along with Enoch) to never experience death!

In 2 Kings 2, we find Elijah standing with his prophetic apprentice Elisha on the far side of the Jordan. “And as they still went on and talked, behold, chariots of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Elisha saw it and he cried, ‘My father! My father! The chariots of Israel and its horsemen!’ And he saw it no more” (vv. 11-12).

What a sight it must have been. In that moment, we learn that God never will answer Elijah’s prayer to take him in death. He has an even better plan, and I’m sure Elijah is now thankful God said no to his earlier request.

In the excellent book Praying Backwards, Bryan Chappell says, “We grow to trust God more by seeing that often he prepares something better than our initial prayers did (or could) request. In fact God’s greatest gifts may come through prayers that seem to be unanswered. Our persistence can help us discover why God blesses by not answering as we ask.”

Is there some prayer you have been crying out to God, and are baffled by his silence or delay? Don’t give up! And rest assured that his greatest gifts may come through prayers that seem to be unanswered.

How to Prepare for Ordination

A pastor friend recently asked me:

“I am walking two of the men in our church through ordination. As part of this I would like to go through a book and was thinking of Pastoral Ministry by John MacArthur. My goal is to help prepare them further for serving as pastors. We have already worked with them on theology and now would like to better equip them to serve as pastors. Any thoughts or question you might have would help me greatly. “

How exciting to see a pastor thinking seriously about leadership development! As Thom Rainer says, “Every church should be constantly asking: Is God raising up the next generation of missionaries, pastors, children’s ministers, and theologians in our church? Are we equipping those who will later equip others?”

Here was my reply to my friend, with a sample program we’ve been developing for our church. It can be adapted for many purposes, including ordination, elder training, college internship, or a general leadership development course.

“John MacArthur’s book on Pastoral Ministry would make an excellent choice for ordination prep. It is thorough and biblical, especially on developing a philosophy of ministry and leadership. It has an entire chapter dedicated to the ordination process with a large appendix of sample questions and issues. The main drawback is that this book does not necessarily deal with practical issues and challenges we small churches face, sometimes lacking in the “how to” areas of people skills, counseling, and church administration.

“Something else that may be helpful is a course I’ve been developing for lay elders. You can find details below. It’s still a work in progress, but some of this material may supplement other material you choose for an ordination training course. Toward the end are a couple lists of sample questions for ordination candidates and prospective elders.”

Introduction

Welcome to our Servant Leadership Training! As you continue growing in Christlikeness, we believe you may be gifted for more specialized ministry in the local church. That is what this course is for – to explore and equip your call to help lead the local church. After the completion of this course, those approved will stand for ordination or nomination before the congregation.

We hope this process will be a blessing both to you as an individual and to the church at large. For those ultimately elected, it will serve to prepare you for office. For those not elected, it will still prepare you for more effective leadership at home, wider service in the church, and brighter witness in the community. For the congregation as a whole, it will provide a large group of men, officers and non-officers, all of whom will be better able to build up and serve the body.

The training period is divided into six sessions as indicated by the course schedule. It can be completed at your own pace, but should take no more than six months to complete the entire packet. We estimate the homework will take you 5-10 hours per session, which is itself a good test whether you could handle the commitment of elder ministry later on.

Required Resources

Assignments

Session One

  • Read and answer the study questions on pp. 7-18 of Leading One Another: Church Leadership by Bobby Jamieson
  • Read article “A Job Description for Lay Elders” by Jeramie Rinne in 9 Marks Journal
  • Complete the Elder Ministry Application
  • Meet with your supervising elder to discuss these assignments

Session Two

  • Read and answer week 2 questions in Leading One Another: Church Leadership (pp. 19-22)
  • Read Intro & Chapter 1 in On Being a Pastor by Prime & Begg
  • Compete the “Basic Doctrines Quiz.” As with all quizzes, you are free to use your Bible and any textbooks while taking the quiz, but you must not look at the answer sheet or check your work until you have taken the entire quiz.
  • Meet with your supervising elder to discuss these assignments

Session Three

  • Read and answer week 3 questions in Leading One Another: Church Leadership (pp. 23-26)
  • Read Chs. 2-5 in On Being a Pastor
  • Complete the “Self-Evaluation Form” and ask your spouse/close friend to assess you also
  • Read article “A Call for Theological Triage” by Al Mohler
  • Meet with your supervising elder to discuss these assignments

Session Four

Session Five

Session Six

  • Read and answer week 6 questions in Leading One Another: Church Leadership (pp. 35-37)
  • Read Chs. 12-14 in On Being a Pastor
  • Complete the “Basic Counseling Quiz.”
  • Look over the article “100 Recommended Reads” by Colin Adams and pick one book you plan to start reading within the next couple months
  • Meet with your supervising elder to discuss these assignments

Additional Assignments to Be Completed By the End of the Course:

  • Observe at least one ministry team meeting
  • Observe at least one elder meeting
  • Lead a Bible study under the supervision of an elder and receive feedback
  • Preach a sermon under the supervision of an elder and receive feedback
  • Accompany a pastor or elder on a hospital or home visit
  • Oral exam. Toward the end of the course, you will be asked to share your testimony and answer a series of questions before the elders. You can prepare for this exam by completing the “Ordination Study Guide” and looking over these two helpful articles “Questions for a Prospective Pastor” by Jim Elliff and Don Whitney, and “Ordination Comprehensive Questions” by Grace Community Church (Appendix found in the back of Pastoral Ministry edited by John MacArthur)

Question: What tools or format have you found helpful to train up leaders in your context?

Sermons on Romans

Romans is the Mount Everest of the Bible. It is Paul’s doctrinal masterpiece, expounding the truth and beauty of the gospel like no other book.

Romans explores the depths of our sins. It ascends the heights of our salvation. It equips us to live sanctified, holy lives. It untangles the mystery of election, and the future role of Israel in God’s redemptive plan.

Yes, all scripture is inspired by God. But if there is just one book in the New Testament you should master, it is the Book of Romans. I preached through this book at Crossview Bible Church from 2017 through 2019, and have included links to the sermons below. I pray it is a blessing to you as it has been to me and our church.

(To see a list of other sermon series I have preached, please visit my Sermon Hub page)

Grace to You (Romans 1:1-7)

Faith Gone Viral (Romans 1:8-15)

Let the Lion Out (Romans 1:16-17)

Truth Decay (Romans 1:18-32)

Not So Fast! (Romans 2:1-11)

Empty Boasting (Romans 2:12-24)

Virtual Reality (Romans 2:25-29)

Our Reliable God (Romans 3:1-8)

Pandemic! (Romans 3:9-20)

The Symphony of Salvation (Romans 3:21-31)

Faith of our Fathers (Romans 4:1-12)

The Footsteps of Faith (Romans 4:13-25)

The Best Three Words in the Bible (Romans 5:1-11)

The Overflow of Grace (Romans 5:12-21)

Dead to Sin (Romans 6:1-11)

Under New Management (Romans 6:12-19)

Obedience — Is It Worth Is? (Romans 6:20-23)

The Limits of the Law (Romans 7:1-14)

Fighting the Flesh (Romans 7:14-25)

The Holy Spirit: Your Friend in the Fight (Romans 8:1-11)

The Spirit of Adoption (Romans 8:12-17)

Groaning ‘Til Glory (Romans 8:18-25)

Called and Confident (Romans 8:28-30)

Victory in Jesus (Romans 8:31-39)

Agony over Israel (Romans 9:1-9)

Saved by God (Romans 9:10-18)

The Plans of the Potter (Romans 9:19-33)

The Word of Faith (Romans 10:1-13)

Beautiful Feet (Romans 10:14-21)

The Steadfast Love of God (Romans 11:1-10)

A Call to Humility (Romans 11:11-24)

All Israel will be Saved (Romans 11:25-36)

Under Construction

This page is a work in progress. I will continue to add more sermons from our Exposition of Romans. God bless and thanks for listening.

A Living Sacrifice (Romans 12:1-2)

No Small Gifts (Romans 12:3-8)

Authentic Love (Romans 12:9-13)

Love Your Enemies (Romans 12:14-21)

God and the Government (Romans 13:1-7)

Soldiers of Light (Romans 13:8-14)

A Guide to Christian Liberty (Romans 14:1-7)

The Judgment Seat of Christ (Romans 14:8-12)

Go the Extra Mile (Romans 14:13-23)

Gospel Harmony (Romans 15:1-7)

Reaching the Unreached (Romans 15:8-21)

Partners in Prayer (Romans 15:22-33)

The Family of God (Romans 16:1-16)

To God Be the Glory (Romans 16:17-27)

Thoughts on Life and Leadership